That’s good advice for all. For my specific case though, I was aware of getting the education evals done. However, I didn’t realize they would need the eval results as early as the IELTS when building your EE profile. I had thought the education evals were not required until after ITA together with police clearance, employment letter(s), etc.
It’s a minor slip up nothing to stress over will only delay filing by a bit.
Do WES or other evaluating agencies really need transcripts?
Just confirming again as it will delay the things to get from universities… I thought only Degree or Semester marksheets will work…
Also, Do we really need to send sealed envelope directly from University to WES or Can I courier myself?
Last question, Has anyone used any other agency other than WES?
I had used both BCIT and Univ. of Toronto (long story) for my application in 2016 and both did require transcript to be sent directly from university to them, sealed. This was easy with my US university as the process was all online and quick but long and involved with Univ. of Pune as you can imagine. But my parents did it for me from India.
Check on WES’s instructions and call and ask them if necessary. I’ve read on other posts that WES is OK if you send them the latest transcript sealed from univ -> you -> WES but confirm this with them first. If they say they need it from the university directly you don’t have a choice.
Edit: And yes, transcripts are mandatory, atleast when I applied. Marksheets and Degree certificates alone won’t work.
thanks… In that case should I create account with WES or others first and then apply transcripts in university to be sent directly to them?
or when should be really ask university to send transcripts to them?
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how do WES or others identify its sent for me? Just by name?
This is what WES says in its documentation about sending your documents to them:
Before you send documents, you must submit an application and get a reference number. Include your WES reference number on all envelopes and correspondence. WES is not responsible for documents that arrive without a reference number. Documents that arrive in our office without a reference number may encounter processing delays.
Do not send original documents unless specifically requested by WES. All documentation received becomes the property of WES and cannot be returned.
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In addition to what specified in WES evaluation timeline and document submission details
I would say that if your Indian university is going to take 2 months just to send the transcript to WES or others, it’s worth doing the transcript thing first. Call and check with WES whether they match your transcript name to your application name or what. BCIT and UofToronto matched my name on transcript to my application and all was good. In one case, the application was submitted before transcript reached them and they processed it after they received the transcript, and in another case the transcript reached them first and was with them for two weeks before I submitted my application. Again, call and check with the evaluating agency what they prefer.
I am confused now… Anshul told it is recommended to send directly from university to WES (or depends on agency)…
Now your quoted message says it should have a reference number written on top of it.
So I don’t think university personnel will agree to mention a WES reference number on the envelope when sending directly to WES.
Thanks again.
I said “In addition to…”
Which is why I suggested to call WES and confirm whether they need it directly from the university or not, or whether they need a reference number or not.
When I did my ECAs in 2016 - I did a total of 4 ECAs for my 3 degrees, long story - from BCIT and Univ of Toronto, they did not require any reference number, they just matched the names for all transcripts I sent them, be it from the US or India.
When I did my ECAs in 2016, WES was the worst agency in my opinion to do the ECAs because their website wasn’t functional, they won’t pick up service calls etc, whereas BCIT and UoT were stellar! Now I hear WES is the best based on other people’s recent experiences. So things have certainly changed!
WES also seems to have slightly difference requirements than other agencies, from what people have said, for e.g., people say they don’t need transcripts from university directly to them.
Which is why I was suggesting that you call WES and get this cleared.
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Thank you for the detailed reply
I checked again on WES website and it do asks for Bachelor’s document also if you are getting evaluated yours Masters.
For all applicants submitting a Master’s Degree or PGDip earned on top of a three-year Bachelor’s Degree (12+3+2), you must also provide your Bachelor’s degree documents. WES cannot complete an evaluation without these documents.
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so do i need to send them two Transcripts?
I did my Bachelors from a different university and Masters from other one.
Asking this again, because i read earlier here someone said (may be ) that only higher study degree needs to be evaluated… and WES is saying specifically above quoted even when i register my application with them… -
Do we need to enter CIC in list of organizations getting WES report result or should i just add my address and then just need to enter WES findings during express entry application?
Edit: I see CIC is added by default by WES for electronic copy. -
My name in my Bachelors and Master is different than my current name (after marriage).
My universities will send transcripts with my maiden name, i guess. So do i need to send my marriage certificate or passport copy separately to WES? -
Can I choose WES and Can my husband choose other agency like BCIT or IQAS or other? or it should be same for both in same application?
thanks again.
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I think they mean a BS/MS prog where you spend 3 years instead of 4 years in bachelors and then 2 in Masters and get both BS and MS degrees. That’s why they’ve probably written (12+3+2). This is not uncommon in US, I don’t know about India. But again, I would confirm with them just to be sure.
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CIC has direct online access to your ECA once you enter the ECA number while filling out your profile. This number is present on the report you get. You need to add your address. The agency mails (usually two) copies of the ECA to you. You’ve to also scan and upload this after you get ITA. Usually you combine all documents per degree (ECA, degree certificate, transcript) into one pdf and upload that as part of your educational credentials
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I think the marriage certificate will be a part of your application anyway since you and your husband will be on the application together. If you want you can add this name change detail in a letter of explanation.
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I’ll defer to people who have applied as a couple, to answer this question. But I don’t think it matters who you get your ECA from. In my case, I had one ECA from UofToronto and two from BCIT and it didn’t matter.
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thanks… I found it finally on WES website when creating application…
Option 1
Send Directly
For completed, incomplete and in-progress study, ask the institution responsible for conducting the examinations to attest and send your documents directly to WES.
Option 2
Send in a Sealed Envelope
If the institution gives you the document to send to WES, the document must be attested, dated, and placed in a sealed envelope that is signed or stamped across the back flap by the appropriate authentication officer at the institution that conducted the examination. If the envelope is opened or there is no stamp or signature across the back flap, WES cannot accept the document.
@avj To the point in Option2,
Blockquote If the envelope is opened or there is no stamp or signature across the back flap, WES cannot accept the document.
I have a Masters from US and I received the official transcript from my university.Now I want to forward this to WES. The transcript is sealed but there is no stamp or signature on the back flap. Will that be a big deal? Will WES not accept it if there is no stamp/signature on the back flap? I have also attached front and back of the envelope that I received from the univ.
It again depends on whether WES follows this guideline to the word. It’s worth calling them and asking and mailing them a transcript anyway. If they accept it well and good, else you’ll have to request online/go to your university to get the stamp on the back. I don’t see why this would be a big deal if the transcript is obviously sealed and never opened. But call and confirm once.
Same thing happened to me when I first ordered transcripts from my uni in US - it did not have signature and seal across back flap. So I contacted my uni and laid out the requirements as well as why, and they were happy to oblige. So once I received the new set, I sent it to WES.
I believe WES does explicitly say on their website that they won’t accept US transcripts without signature/seal so I took them at their word basically. If you ask your uni again to send as per WES requirements I’m sure they will do so.
Is it possible to treat WES as a streaming service or is it a in-progress -> done kind of thing?
Scenario:
Wife has two bachelor’s degrees and having both evaluated will give us more points. The US degree’s transcripts are in WES’s hands already - however the Indian degree’s transcripts may reach WES in two weeks from now. Actual ETA is anyone’s guess.
So can I create an EE profile now with one degree evaluated? And then hope that my CRS will go up as WES scores the Mumbai degree whenever it arrives.
Thanks in Advance.
You may be able to change the EE profile after you submitted it. See http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1005&top=29
In any case, they usually give ITA results every 2 weeks so even if yours doesn’t get selected, once you get new ECA, create a new profile and resubmit/modify existing EE profile.
The thing is my univ has outsourced the dispatching of transcripts to 3rd party.
anyways, I have explained my situation to WES and waiting on their reply. Based on that, will go from there.
hmmmm…interesting 