Hello all,
Can I get my reference letter before i create my EE profile
Hello all,
Can I get my reference letter before i create my EE profile. Or should it be done only after receiving ITA
You can get it at any time. It does not matter whether it is before or after EE profile creation.
Thankyou for the reply
Hello,
- I got work experience letters from previous employer but not all job duties are mentioned is that okay? it talks about dates I worked and position.
- These letters are 3 years old as the position I worked was in 2011 and got the experience letter few years after. Can I use the same as I am not sure if I will be able to get a letter from them now.
- I worked as a graduate student, does that count? - the below dates are excluding this experience.
- I have overall experience of about 4.5 Years experience . 2 Years Pre - Masters and 2.5 post. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Best regards,
Kapil Chandra
- The job duties should somewhat match the ones given for your NOC code.
- Date of the letters doesn’t matter as much as the content. If the letter content is not appropriate better get new one to count that experience towards the points.
- No it should be a full-time paid position; research assistantship etc is usually part time. Full time internships can be counted.
- Get reference letters for both that conform the CIC standard, or atleast prove to CIC that you tried to get the letters but were unable to.
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Thank you Anshul for quick response, one other question is I worked as a Software Engineer initially and then moved on to project management. My question is even after moving to project management service companies list you a generic title as Software Engineer / Software developer which is what happened in my case. What do you suggest in that record. I got all the experience letters but they wrote about my conduct but dont list out the duties.
Ask your HR if they’re willing to give letter with duties and responsibilities since that will be much better to match against NOC and will pass off easily as proof of experience. The title doesn’t matter, the duties and responsibilities do.
Thank you ! I will try that for sure.
thanks… it is 466…
and now we are thinking if we submit only previous company’s experience then we would get 441… which is still more than cutoff… and will save unnecessary effort to get letters from current employer and managers…
441 because although i have 3.5 years experience in first company …but 1 year is outside 10 year window… so i am calculating as 2 year experience…
what do you suggest guys…?
should i accept this ITA and just submit first company experience and remove current company…and explain on letter of explanation tht my points would be still more than cutoff?
or
should i decline the ITA and remove current company from application and get ITA again in next draw?
I am making new records of complexity every time …isn’t it 
thanks
IMO you should accept the ITA and take the necessary efforts to get letter from current employer if possible. If they refuse then add that in LoE and for the current company’s experience add the paystubs and offer letter and all that. Maybe they consider it and accept what you submit. But not submitting will guarantee you will drop down to 441 which is too tight. You may still get approved but if anything else makes your points go down - which is unlikey - then you’re scrwed.
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do you guys know if letter from manager has just the company logo on the top left or top right side … then is it valid letter or is it still considered as a plain paper letter unless on company’s letterhead, and still needs to be notarized by manager??
asking that because our managers gave similar letters when we applied for H1Bs or when we had RFEs
Is it just the company’s logo or is the company name visible too? I guess if the company’s name is visible, it might be acceptable since it could be verified. I don’t know if just the logo would help.
by logo i meant yes the company name itself…
i asked that because just company name or logo does not make it a letterhead… i think a letterhead usually has company’s complete address, phone number, email id etc. too in the header or the footer…
It must be the official company letter head the exact specifications are not defined. The letter must have the company address, phone, etc. It’s common for original letterheads to have this information.
so the problem is my managers are not ready to give anything on company’s letterhead…
is it fine on the plain paper or on a paper with just company logo…
i have one more question…
my previous company’s joining letter says “Asst. Systems Engineer” … all pay slips say “Asst. Systems Engineer” except the last one which says “Systems Engineer”. Also the relieving and experience certificate says “Systems Engineer”
Now I am confused how to represent it to CIC… i entered earlier “Systems Engineer” …
Do I need to change it to “Asst. Systems Engineer” or add both of these… or should I keep it and just give them last payslip+experience letter… and should not give joining letter or any of other payslips. this way “Systems Engineer” will be okay…
Please suggest
You mentioned three but there are only two options letterhead or plain paper. Plain paper with a logo that you print is not an official letterhead its just a plain paper (Also don’t do this). In the event you are unable to get a formal letter from the company for whatever reason you can get one from a colleague or better yet your manager.
The letter must also state the reason why the formal letter is unable. Reason could be “company does not provide such documentation”. The letter must be signed and include the managers full name, company address, phone, email, etc. And quite obviously include your role and responsibilities. This combined with pay slips, etc will go a long way to convince the officer of your proof of work.
It should be fine status prefixes like Senior, Junior, Asst. are ignored when choosing an NOC. All that matters is Systems Engineer and for how long.
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thanks… this clears many doubts…
Hi,
While filling up the EE profile, I had entered my current job under NOC 0213 (Computer and Information Systems Managers) for the current job as well as to base our application on this NOC. However, my current employer’s HR is not providing an employment letter with job responsibilities (I had requested that I want this letter for immigration/Canada visitor visa, so they gave a generic letter. For the time being, I dont want to be specific and mention that I want the letter for Canada Immigration).
For my previous jobs, I have entered all those under 2171 (Information Systems Analysts and Consultants) and I do have appropriate Job experience letters for them. This work experiences is > 3 years.
Following are my questions
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While filling up the ITA, shall I change the application NOC code and current job application code to 2171 (instead of 0213); upload the generic experience letter from the current employer? I am hoping that I will still receive the full work experience points as I do have detailed prior experience letters for 3+ years. Would having a different NOC codes during EE and ITA create a problem? Any other issues that would be arising due to this?
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For my wife, she has work experiences in US and India. However, it wont be possible for her to get detailed work experience letters from India. While filling up the EE profile we had entered all the work experiences, but while filling up the ITA application would it be ok if remove her India’s work experience as we wont be able to get the detailed experience letter? Or shall we just keep all the work experiences and upload the relieving letters for Indian work experiences.
I would really appreciate if you would provide you thoughts.
Thanks
Can anyone provide insight on the above topic? Thanks