As a PhD student when can I apply for my PR?

Either is fine. However you need to get your student visa first, without that he is not eligible for an open work permit.

Thank you, .
I am waiting for my application results.
I will get back when I apply for my student Visa, in case I need more help.

Thanks again.

I need few suggestions to plan our move. We have been in US for the past six years. We have a house full of furniture, books and kitchen utensils. We must move out of US by April 14th. I am expecting my PhD application results to be out in a month. We will be in India for few months before we go to Canada. All depends on the visa processing time and the date I will be granted my visa from.
Here are my questions.

  1. What are the documents that we might need from US during our visa processing? How long does it take to have them?
  2. Since we will not be moving to Canada directly (we do not think we can) is it possible to have some of our household things shifted there? Is it cost effective?
  3. How can we have our car moved to Canada?

Thank you for helping.
Best regards,

  1. I don’t know enough about student visa’s to answer that question. But I would assume its nothing out of the ordinary (Passport, Marriage Cert, Proof of funds, Admission docs)

  2. You can Fedex / UPS your stuff to Canada. I sent over books, kitchen stuff, clothes, etc cost us about 500 USD

  3. If still under lein you will need a letter from the bank. If not then you will only need a recall clerance doc. Call these guys I used them they are knowelable and will give you all the info.

Based on a friend’s recent experience moving just from Utah to Tennessee, I think it’ll cost you more If you’re planning to move furniture AND everything else. There are companies who will supply you with the container and you pack everything in it and they send it wherever you want, including storage (additional cost). When I checked with UPack, the minimum quote I got from Utah to Toronto was $2000 USD, however I have heard you can negotiate and bring it down (my friend paid $1300 something from Utah to TN I think). Without furniture if might be much less. I haven’t done the actual move so I don’t have personal experience. Also think about the fact that stuffs gonna be more expensive (in just the number without conversion) in Canada so do the cost analysis based on what you own.

Do you have a place there yet? Where will you store all your stuff? If you store it either in USA or Canada in storage its gonna cost you. Also If you don’t have any Canadian visa/immigration status yet it’s gonna be hard to get through customs I presume. @anon25417004 any thoughts ?

For car, also it’s gonna be customs and immigration issue I believe.

I assume if you are sending your stuff over you already have a PR and PR Cards? Moving a car over the border is pretty straight forward use any car moving company they know all the details. You car does have to be free of recalls and you will have to install day time lights in Canada which should cost about 150 CAD. Also the car will land in a bonded warehouse (Mississauga) where you will have to go with your documents and pickup.

@abhirupac.sen do you have any specific questions about moving your car? Happy to answer.

Thanks to both Anshul and for such elaborate answers.
I assume if you are sending your stuff over you already have a PR and PR Cards?
No, we don’t have that. We are taking a roundabout way.
I always had plans for PhD and have applied to multiple schools in Canada. We were aware that my husband would get an open work permit when I move to do PhD. Our experience with Canada companies is similar to chicken or egg (job first or work permit first) situation. So, we thought of taking the academic route especially because I am really interested in it.

As of the books and utensils, we have friends to accept them for us. However, from what you said, transporting the car does not seem very feasible. Yes, the car has to be kept here for a while till our visa gets cleared and we move in from India. Unless we have a friend to keep the car, it will be additional storage charges. Please correct me if I am wrong. We are just thinking of all the options so that we could save some money. Having the car would be a huge help in the initial days. , is the link you provided, of a car moving company?

Thanks again for helping.
Best regards,

I think my question was more basic. You currently don’t have any official status in Canada (no visa or PR). Why will customs allow any of your stuff to enter Canada?

I understand that.
I do not mean to send anything now.

Thanks again.
Best regards,

Technically you can send stuff over you don’t need official status to Fedex or UPS boxes to Canada. As far I can recollect you can even send you car. You need a destination name, address and phone. The boxes will be delivered to that address the car will need to be claimed from a bonded warehouse by the recipient. If that recipient is you then it will be tax free for anyone else they will be taxed. :grinning:

Oh, I did not know this :thinking: . I always thought you need bona fide relation with any country (visa, PR etc) for you to send big stuff over: furniture, car etc

It’s like if someone in Canada bought all your furniture and you ship him his purchase.

Hi , thanks for explaining.

I have a different query. How difficult is it to get a job in Canada with an open work permit?

Check this link on Quora

The first few lines say that you do not get a job unless you have a PR. Is it true?

On Quora, I often read about scary things regarding scarcity of job, reluctance of Canadian companies to recruit. Is it really true that they do not acknowledge people who do not have Canadian degrees?

Thank you for suggesting.
Best regards,

EDIT: I went through the post and read that person’s comments. I have also read some of his other answers and they aren’t very objective and sound very prejudiced. I would read them with a pinch of salt.

Depends on your field and the city you want to live in, in Canada. A lot of posts on Quora are pessimistic in my opinion and are derived from a person’s bad experience. Based on what I heard from others living there, people from other countries get the PR so easily they assume getting a job will be a piece of cake. However it is as difficult as getting the interview calls/landing the offer as it is in the US.

The only thing true about that Quora statement is that some companies who are not willing to sponsor visa or do not know how will prefer to give you an interview if you have a PR already.

The only way you will find this out is if you start applying.

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Thank you, Anshul.
I found the post very pessimistic and demotivating. My husband is in IT. However, the city we will live in depends on the school I join. I have applied to schools in Ontario, British Columbia, Montreal and Nova Scotia. My subject is Statistics.

Thanks again.
Best regards,

I second what @avj said. To add my 2 cents Canada unlike the US was a place that people only moved to with a PR and not work visa’s. Often people coming in on PR (Before Express Entry) got their PR due to family ties and not job market requirements. This created a situation where some PRs found their education or skill sets lacking in terms of the demands of North American employers. In turn this lead to the stories of I studied Physics in India but here I drive a cab or I was a graduate but here I have no jobs.

The US has the same issues when it comes to family based GC’s the reason we don’t hear about it as much is probably due to the large numbers of H1Bs who have found a lot of success. With Express Entry and GTS the government is trying to change this and prioritize those who can hit the ground running.

I have over the last 6 month met many people of various backgrounds and a few different nationalities who have got their PR and are in the process of moving. This includes people in Finance, Marketing, Tech and Education most all of them have setup interviews without too much trouble and a few have received multiple offers. The biggest issue many had was that the salaries were much lower than some places in the US. But that is separate discussion.

Statistics is a great field and is a path way to very high paying jobs in Machine Learning, Data Science and Deep Learning. I worked with many smart people from the Indian Statistical Institute who are now heading some serious Data Science teams in Silicon Valley. A friend of mine with a statistics background is part of the data science team at Ecobee a successful Toronto based startup thats competing with Google Nest.

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Thank you, , for elaborating.

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We got our fingerprints done yesterday from Fedex. However, I see in the posts that the FBI clearance is valid for only a year. Do we need this clearance for student visa or open work permit? I have not seen it mentioned in the list of documents required for student visa but not sure about the work permit. Also, approximately how long does it take to get it from FBI? Can the finger prints be saved for later?

Thank you,

Yes you will need police clearances for the open work permit. The FBI process is now pretty quick they just launched the electronic version.

Ohhh that is great!!!
Thank you for updating.
This is big help. Thanks again.