Primary NOC Code and impact


#1

Hi All,
I wanted to understand the impact of the Primary NOC code in the Express Entry Process, and need your help with that.

My situation:
I am currently CEO of one company and CTO of another company. I would be running my own company once I move to Canada and won’t be needing a job. My work history is as follows:

2017-Current - CTO and CEO
2015-2017 - Director of Engineering
2014-2015 - Software Engineer
2012-2014 - CTO
2011-2012 - Senior Software Engineer
2005-2010 - Director of Engineering

What should be primary NOC code?

Thanks :slight_smile:


#2

This is how it works. There are two sets of points in the process the first is called FSW (67 out of 100 cutoff) and the second is called CRS (Cutoff decided multiple times a year out of 1200). As an engineer you will first have to qualify for FSW before you can submit your express entry application.

Your primary NOC is the only one used for the FSW points calculation so its best you use the one that gives you the most points (Most years of experience). FSW work experience points.

1 year 9
2-3 years 11
4-5 years 13
6 or more years 15

Once your past the FSW stage and filling up the EE application you can now list all your NOCs as separate line items and you will get points for all those years of experience (3 Years max for points). Keep in mind you will need proof of work letter(s) for all those listed NOCs

In your case you can potentially use the senior manager NOC which if I recall correctly will give you more points.


#3

Thanks @vik. Have a few more queries:

Do the 6+ years for FSW need to be in the same NOC?

Can I use the software engineer NOC for even the senior roles to keep things simple? Is there any benefit of the manager level NOC?

I am guessing I would need the proof of work letters only at ITA stage. At that stage do I need the proof for all, or just the 6 years which is sufficient to satisfy all the criteria?

Thanks!


#4

Yes you can only pick one NOC as the primary one and this is the one used for the FSW points calculation.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/become-candidate/eligibility/federal-skilled-workers.html

Your work experience must be:

  • In the same type of job as your primary NOC
  • Within the last 10 years
  • Paid work (volunteer work, unpaid internships don’t count)
  • At skill type 0, or skill levels A or B of the 2016 National Occupational Classification (NOC)
  • At least 1 year (1,560 hours total / 30 hours per week), continuous:
  • Full-time at 1 job: 30 hours/week for 12 months = 1 year full time (1,560 hours)
  • Wqual amount in part-time: 15 hours/week for 24 months = 1 year full time (1,560 hours)
  • Full-time at more than 1 job: 30 hours/week for 12 months at more than 1 job = 1 year full time (1,560 hours)

No using the manager level NOC does not give you any extra benefits what does help is having CLB 9 is all four language abilities. This gives you double the points for the 3 years of work experience that you get points for.

Yes all documents are only needed at the ITA stage for the application stage you only need your IELTS and ECA’s. You can get extra points for having a brother or sister in Canada who is already a PR.


#5

Thanks @vik. Final question:
Can I use Software Engineer NOC for all the Director of Engineering and CTO role?


#6

Yes if you believe the tasks listed for Software Engg. Align with what you did.


#7

Thanks @vignesh.pr

I also coded in my role as Director of Engineering. So if I did everything listed for Software Engineer and Software Manager, can I use either of them?


#8

Yes if either code cover the tasks and responsibilities that you had done you can use either.


#9

Keep in mind the proof of work letter must be from someone who is your manager or the HR person in the firm or if you are claiming experience from your own startup then this. Also

if the applicant is self-employed, articles of incorporation or other evidence of business ownership, evidence of self-employment income and documentation from third-party individuals indicating the service provided along with payment details (self-declared main duties or affidavits are not acceptable proof of self-employed work experience).